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In the last couple of years I tested a Four Seasons Trekking Equipment which I bought mainly from Decathlon.
My interest was, to find the cheapest stuff which I really can recommend to young people. And I found, that Decathlon Solognac equipment most times is the best offer.
I wrote, that I tested a Four Seasons Equipment, but here I will recommend you a Three Seasons Equipment!
Winter Equipment is relatively expensive and especially beginners would not use it so often.
So I recommend here a part of my perfectly working four seasons stuff, where I cutted out the winter part, which a beginner can buy later, if he follows my advice.
In the end this three seasons equipment will work with some additional stuff as a four seasons equipment too.
But only if the beginner really keeps it in mind, if I write"This layer has to fit under this here, but you can buy it later".
It is very complicated to organise a perfect layering system. It's no option, if the rain jacket in the end is shorter than the clothing it should protect for example! And it's no option to buy clothing which become longer and longer like civil layers, ending up with a heavy rain coat, that the beginner has to carry around.
Not everything on the market fits with the other!
And not everything you can find in an outdoor shops can be recommended as hiking equipment! You see there equipment for groups, canoe equipment, stuff for Land Rover owners for example and a lot of other stuff, which no experienced and well informed bushcrafter would carry around in his ruck sack on a trekking tour!
That is the reason, why I have chosen a complete equipment out of a well designed existing layering system, which works more or less like a NATO field uniform layering system. But this system here is lighter and looks civil!
Several well fitting layers are the best lightweight option for trekking and traveling and now a days state of the art.
On longer journeys parts of it are the spare clothing for the other parts, but in cold conditions all together becomes a winter solution! That's the secret, how it has to be done professional and properly!
We always have to count with unexpected cold weather on longer hikes and travels!
In my opinion it is necessary that this stuff can be used for Bushcraft, Wild Camping and Trekking as well as for Travelling, Youth Hostels, touristic Camping Grounds and City use and directly in every day's Civil Life, because that keeps open every option and saves a lot of money, if people are on a budget.
Who owns my Four Seasons Equipment theoretically doesn't need anything else.
I use it myself on very long journeys, and I have nothing more with me.
In this thread I recommend light weight equipment that is tough enough to survive the bush and will last relatively long, which blends perfectly into British nature, but looks civil enough to use it in town and for example university as well.
It is meant for use between Scandinavia and Switzerland, between Poland, and Ireland.
In Italy, southern France and Spain in the summer it wouldn't work so good. Yes, it would work there too, but for traveling there in the summer I would recommend different stuff.
I tried to mix up the colours a bit, that my student doesn't look like a soldier. But I mainly have chosen clothing, that is in the quality of seams and fabric not far away from NATO field uniforms and blends perfectly in northern European nature in all seasons.
That is here the perfect stealth camping equipment for civil use! Far better than a military combat suit, because it allows us to get in the forest undetected.
Who uses this, looks like somebody on a day hike, not like an illegal wild camper!
And who is invisible in field and forest, usually doesn't get any problems.
If I compare the here recommended clothing with similar stuff from other sources, I find it well visible, that here people who know everything about current and older NATO field uniforms and civil trekking equipment worked together with clothing designers who studied in Paris. That stuff is really elegant.
This list here doesn't collect the lightest solutions. (They are listed in the thread "How light is lightweight?") But it is a very cheap collection of relatively light equipment, that is tough enough to last a long time.
This list is mainly made for students, young and relatively strong people, who really have to count with every penny.
In the end of the thread I will recommend some camping equipment too, what is relatively cheap but not the cheapest in the world.
In my opinion it is the best strategie to save money by buying cheap clothing, that we can invest the rest step by step in other good quality equipment.
A beginner doesn't need all and everything immediately. Especially in good summer weather he can start with that, what he finds in his wardrobe and attic.
This list here helps to avoid, that people on a budget throw their money out of the window for the wrong expensive stuff.
If you have a Decathlon shop next to you, you can order stuff from a central store to your perhaps smaller store, in several sizes, try it, to see, if it fits, perhaps write down the sizes of clothing which belongs in the layering system, but currently isn't necessary, and order it later.
If you do it like that, you can be sure, that every layer fits over the other!
You should put in the shop the complete winter layering system on you, see what fits over what, write down every single size of every piece of your clothing system, but then buy at first only the spring and summer stuff!
So you can buy step by step a perfect four seasons equipment, but you can start now with a relatively low amount of money.
I recommend to write this list here on a paper before you go there and to write in the shop down the sizes you need for every single piece!
That will need a whole day in the shop!
Bring enough time with you!
Than you have the option to order the other stuff you can't buy immediately via internet home to you if you need it, or even on an international journey to your Youth Hostel or touristic Camping Ground. That would be for example intelligent, if you start in the summer and continue in autumn and winter.
I always have a list of my stuff with all sizes with me when I travel.
Decathlon exists in 44 Countries!
I recommend you to get at first if you enter the shop the DECATHLON CARD.
Always when you buy something you give it to them before you pay.
With that card you can enter thousands of Decathlon shops in 44 countries all over the world and use the international warranty. You can buy a ruck sack in Britain but change it immediately in every Decathlon shop in Poland for example! Without having a collection of paper recieds with you!
That is a service nobody else offers you, and you should prepare yourself to use it if it should become necessary!
PLEASE DO NOT ASK OR COMMENT IN THIS THREAD, BEFORE MY LIST IS COMPLETE AND I TELL IT YOU !!!
I wish to keep this list clean and clear.
And I will write here several days.
After I am ready with it everybody will be invited to discuss my recommendations, to ask questions and to let us know his own recommendations, Ideas and meanings.
Thank You!
My interest was, to find the cheapest stuff which I really can recommend to young people. And I found, that Decathlon Solognac equipment most times is the best offer.
I wrote, that I tested a Four Seasons Equipment, but here I will recommend you a Three Seasons Equipment!
Winter Equipment is relatively expensive and especially beginners would not use it so often.
So I recommend here a part of my perfectly working four seasons stuff, where I cutted out the winter part, which a beginner can buy later, if he follows my advice.
In the end this three seasons equipment will work with some additional stuff as a four seasons equipment too.
But only if the beginner really keeps it in mind, if I write"This layer has to fit under this here, but you can buy it later".
It is very complicated to organise a perfect layering system. It's no option, if the rain jacket in the end is shorter than the clothing it should protect for example! And it's no option to buy clothing which become longer and longer like civil layers, ending up with a heavy rain coat, that the beginner has to carry around.
Not everything on the market fits with the other!
And not everything you can find in an outdoor shops can be recommended as hiking equipment! You see there equipment for groups, canoe equipment, stuff for Land Rover owners for example and a lot of other stuff, which no experienced and well informed bushcrafter would carry around in his ruck sack on a trekking tour!
That is the reason, why I have chosen a complete equipment out of a well designed existing layering system, which works more or less like a NATO field uniform layering system. But this system here is lighter and looks civil!
Several well fitting layers are the best lightweight option for trekking and traveling and now a days state of the art.
On longer journeys parts of it are the spare clothing for the other parts, but in cold conditions all together becomes a winter solution! That's the secret, how it has to be done professional and properly!
We always have to count with unexpected cold weather on longer hikes and travels!
In my opinion it is necessary that this stuff can be used for Bushcraft, Wild Camping and Trekking as well as for Travelling, Youth Hostels, touristic Camping Grounds and City use and directly in every day's Civil Life, because that keeps open every option and saves a lot of money, if people are on a budget.
Who owns my Four Seasons Equipment theoretically doesn't need anything else.
I use it myself on very long journeys, and I have nothing more with me.
In this thread I recommend light weight equipment that is tough enough to survive the bush and will last relatively long, which blends perfectly into British nature, but looks civil enough to use it in town and for example university as well.
It is meant for use between Scandinavia and Switzerland, between Poland, and Ireland.
In Italy, southern France and Spain in the summer it wouldn't work so good. Yes, it would work there too, but for traveling there in the summer I would recommend different stuff.
I tried to mix up the colours a bit, that my student doesn't look like a soldier. But I mainly have chosen clothing, that is in the quality of seams and fabric not far away from NATO field uniforms and blends perfectly in northern European nature in all seasons.
That is here the perfect stealth camping equipment for civil use! Far better than a military combat suit, because it allows us to get in the forest undetected.
Who uses this, looks like somebody on a day hike, not like an illegal wild camper!
And who is invisible in field and forest, usually doesn't get any problems.
If I compare the here recommended clothing with similar stuff from other sources, I find it well visible, that here people who know everything about current and older NATO field uniforms and civil trekking equipment worked together with clothing designers who studied in Paris. That stuff is really elegant.
This list here doesn't collect the lightest solutions. (They are listed in the thread "How light is lightweight?") But it is a very cheap collection of relatively light equipment, that is tough enough to last a long time.
This list is mainly made for students, young and relatively strong people, who really have to count with every penny.
In the end of the thread I will recommend some camping equipment too, what is relatively cheap but not the cheapest in the world.
In my opinion it is the best strategie to save money by buying cheap clothing, that we can invest the rest step by step in other good quality equipment.
A beginner doesn't need all and everything immediately. Especially in good summer weather he can start with that, what he finds in his wardrobe and attic.
This list here helps to avoid, that people on a budget throw their money out of the window for the wrong expensive stuff.
If you have a Decathlon shop next to you, you can order stuff from a central store to your perhaps smaller store, in several sizes, try it, to see, if it fits, perhaps write down the sizes of clothing which belongs in the layering system, but currently isn't necessary, and order it later.
If you do it like that, you can be sure, that every layer fits over the other!
You should put in the shop the complete winter layering system on you, see what fits over what, write down every single size of every piece of your clothing system, but then buy at first only the spring and summer stuff!
So you can buy step by step a perfect four seasons equipment, but you can start now with a relatively low amount of money.
I recommend to write this list here on a paper before you go there and to write in the shop down the sizes you need for every single piece!
That will need a whole day in the shop!
Bring enough time with you!
Than you have the option to order the other stuff you can't buy immediately via internet home to you if you need it, or even on an international journey to your Youth Hostel or touristic Camping Ground. That would be for example intelligent, if you start in the summer and continue in autumn and winter.
I always have a list of my stuff with all sizes with me when I travel.
Decathlon exists in 44 Countries!
I recommend you to get at first if you enter the shop the DECATHLON CARD.
Always when you buy something you give it to them before you pay.
With that card you can enter thousands of Decathlon shops in 44 countries all over the world and use the international warranty. You can buy a ruck sack in Britain but change it immediately in every Decathlon shop in Poland for example! Without having a collection of paper recieds with you!
That is a service nobody else offers you, and you should prepare yourself to use it if it should become necessary!
PLEASE DO NOT ASK OR COMMENT IN THIS THREAD, BEFORE MY LIST IS COMPLETE AND I TELL IT YOU !!!
I wish to keep this list clean and clear.
And I will write here several days.
After I am ready with it everybody will be invited to discuss my recommendations, to ask questions and to let us know his own recommendations, Ideas and meanings.
Thank You!
