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Just got my 1st Pistol

DaveN

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I have been shooting now only 2 weeks. My groupings were not that good and I was not really improving with the club pistols (no surprise really I had only started 2 weeks ago). The club pistols would have been absolutely fine and and are certainly capable of outshooting me for quite a long time, however as a newbie, the more practice the better. I am not able to put enough time in to practice at the local club as it is only open 2 hrs a day, although that is 4 days a week (one of those being Sunday am). I can however usually make 1-2 days a week (if I am lucky). I know everyone seems to say don't buy until you have used the club stuff for a while, but I had spare cash that I would have wasted otherwise.

I therefore decided to get myself a cheap pistol to practice with in the garden until my old man could source from Europe a cheap enough Steyr LP10 from one of his gun club buddies. They are cheaper over there 2nd hand and so I would not lose money if I do not get on with it, in fact I may even make a profit.
I was looking for something brand new at up to £300 max, but preferably closer to £250. This would be purchased using the refund on a 8 month old Tablet that was faulty. I am great at justifying things and my justification was that I was not going to buy another tablet and therefore it was free money i.e. already spent. Also if the tablet had been a few months older I would not have got the refund and just had a faulty tablet that the manufacturer was unable to fix under warranty even after 2 attempts. With a cast iron justification I did not mind spending this on a pistol even if it turned out to be unsuitable. It would retain its value far more than if I had gotten a replacement tablet that I really did not need (I have 2 others already).

Friday am, I picked it up.
In Budget - Yes
New - Definitely not.
Instead of the stuff I was looking at (HW40, Gamo Compact etc), I ended up with a 1972 Hammerli Master (a little older than me and in much better condition).

I went over to my mums and had a few shots in her Garage as I do not have a garage (it was raining) and it shot very well.
It is so simple and easy to load, but I only get about 60 shots from a 12g co2 cartridge. They are not known for using co2 sparingly.
As I had the day off work, I managed to get to the club for 6pm and took it with me.
Bear in mind I am still new to this and now also new to the gun, I started off with shots all over the target at 10m, however they were all just about on even if they did not score and I was impressed that by the end of the session my shots were all in the black, so the grouping had gotten considerably smaller.
As the weeks go on and I practice in the garden (or at my mums if weather is bad) and at the club, I can see that grouping getting much smaller and me getting somewhere near competent.

As I like this gun so much, the purchase of a Steyr is being put off for a while (unless an offer I cannot refuse comes along).

Dave
 
Nice. :)

I do like CO2 pistols. Post a piccie if you've got one.

60 shots is about average for a .177 CO2 pistol using 12g bulbs and shooting in the 550-600 fps range. Shooting your own pistol will definitely help with developing your shooting skills.

The Hammerli has a good reputation for accuracy. It's size, long sight radius, and the fact that the CO2 bleed valve assembly extends way back over the hand as a counterweight, make it a very stable shooting platform.

If you're enjoying shooting it, then it might be worth looking around for the anatomical grips for it, which would probably improve your accuracy even more. Click on the link to see what they look like. Then click on the link at top left for more piccies of the pistol. http://www.bobsairguns.com/index.php?option=com_rokgallery&view=detail&id=1706&Itemid=137
 
Tis nice to blow off a few at a target with a pistol every now and again.
I'm really still getting to grips with the hw45 as I only shoot it about 20% of my shooting time if that.
Was tubeyouing the other week/month and this 'umerkin chap explained his grip quite well, could even have been CH who posted a link:confused:.
Anywho you probs such a steady grip on a co2 gun so I really don't know why I'm going on.
Enjoy.:D
 
Nice one Dave.:cool: I don't currently have a pistol, but I have the opportunity to shoot my friends pistols.;) I would most certainly have to put some kind of sight on any pistol, as my eye(s) have extreme difficulty focusing on both sights and the target.:eek: At 10m I can hit the target card tho, but only just.:p Maybe Father Christmas will be really nice to me this year and leave me a new toy under the tree.;)
 

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A quick question.... I cannot hold my aim for very long, so I was hoping to train on this a bit at home as I can just aim to a point on the wall in the hallway (2m-5m) without needing to dry fire or anything. I was thinking of using a cheap laser sight to aid with this. I don't know however if the gun could take one (probably not), so I came across some cheap bore sighters on amazon and ebay (they don't need to be accurate, just stay still). I think a laser would allow me to see much easier how much wobble I get and therefore how well I am doing at lessening the wobble.
Am I just overcomplicating things or is it worth it?
 
A quick question.... I cannot hold my aim for very long, so I was hoping to train on this a bit at home as I can just aim to a point on the wall in the hallway (2m-5m) without needing to dry fire or anything. I was thinking of using a cheap laser sight to aid with this. I don't know however if the gun could take one (probably not), so I came across some cheap bore sighters on amazon and ebay (they don't need to be accurate, just stay still). I think a laser would allow me to see much easier how much wobble I get and therefore how well I am doing at lessening the wobble.
Am I just overcomplicating things or is it worth it?

I have used a laser designator on my Walther P22 .22LR semi-auto pistol. At first, I thought "what a pillock!" (OK, don't all cheer at once :D) because the laser was dancing all over the target (we use 80cm targets at 25 metres). With a bit of practice though, I was able to keep the laser centered on the bullseye, and eventually moved back to open sights.

A laser will certainly show you just how much movement there is at the sharp end, and you'll think you've got St Vitus' Dance! After a while though, you'll get the hang of it. A laser pen (like they use for corporate presentations) might be cheaper than a bore-sighter, and can be taped to the barrel.

You can do a couple of things to improve your aim. Are you using the classic "Olympic" hold, i.e. using just one hand, raising the pistol, aiming, and firing? If so, watch some YouTube vids and see how the experts do it. They have trained for years, and muscle memory takes over. They rest the pistol on the shooting table, raise it, come on target, pause for a second and shoot, then lower the pistol to the table and start over.

If you have a lot of time to train, yoiu can master this approach. If however you're not planning to compete in the Olympics, then you can try a two-handed hold, supporting the pistol with your left hand. This is much more stable (for me), and gives you a steadier shooting platform.

The other thing is stance. Are you square on to the target when you shoot? That's not necessarily the most stable stance, it depends on the shooter. Try pulling your right foot back, especially if you decide to shoot two-handed. It will give you a more secure-feeling stance.

Whichever approach you use, don't worry. Shooting a pistol accurately is a challenge, and needs lots of practice to get right. Concentrate on your sight picture, and the rest will come together. That means focussing on the front sight, putting that just under the target, then aligning the rear sight and squeezing the trigger when everything is in alignment. It's not easy, but practice will get you to a point where it's achievable.
 
Well I am certainly not planning on the Olympics as I would think at nearly 40 I am way too old, especially by the time I get any good.
I am shooting single handed and I have adopted a rough 45 degree stance. When aiming I try to aim above the target and then bring the sights down, however I still need a lot more practice at this as I tend to bring them down too far and then have to raise them or start again. I do rest the pistol on the table, raise, shake, shoot and then return with each shot. Basically I am need of getting rid of the wobble. I think I will get the cheap bore sighter (about £10). It's probably useless as a bore sighter, but should do the job I need.

Thanks a lot

Dave

When I started archery after a long time out I was unable to hold for long. With that I got myself one of those trainer bands and just practised with it. It certainly cut down on the time needed to improve. It's that sort of shortcut that I am looking for. I.e. make improvements in certain areas without having to go to the range or squeeze the trigger,
 
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