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Food & Water Basics And The Rule Of 3

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there is a simple survival saying that you can survive 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water and 3 weeks without food, this isn't going to be news to most of you but what I would like to discuss with you is how you aim to supply these needs in you're chosen environment. The air is usually not much of a problem unless you're in an NBC scenario but how and where do you find a sustainable source of food and safe water.
Rainwater, boreholes, rivers or springs?
Are you an agriculturalist or a hunter gatherer. A farmer or a forager? Let's leave the stored food out of this and look at sustainable food and water sources.
Please, I would like to read about your take on things specific to you're environment.
 

lonewolf

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there is a simple survival saying that you can survive 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water and 3 weeks without food, this isn't going to be news to most of you but what I would like to discuss with you is how you aim to supply these needs in you're chosen environment. The air is usually not much of a problem unless you're in an NBC scenario but how and where do you find a sustainable source of food and safe water.
Rainwater, boreholes, rivers or springs?
Are you an agriculturalist or a hunter gatherer. A farmer or a forager? Let's leave the stored food out of this and look at sustainable food and water sources.
Please, I would like to read about your take on things specific to you're environment.
I think you've just about said it all ystranc, rainwater, wells, rivers and springs, all of these are located in my area.
they should be treated with suspicion and always filtered and boiled.
 

lonewolf

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as far as food goes I think one needs to be a bit of everything, agriculturalist growing ones own food from seed, hunter gatherer/forager obtaining food from the wild when it is available, farmer? to the extent that one could be breeding animals for meat but I believe that these should be smaller more easily managed animals rather than larger stock animals, unless one has a lifetimes experience of working with these larger animals I think this is a non starter.
 

Barbara

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As l will be staying here (l hope), there are several sources of water nearby - the original spring water supply to the house, 2 streams within water carrying distance and a small lake a bit further away. l know the lake water will need purifying as it serves our neighbour and they've been having problems with quality.
As for food, we will have to be more creative with the local supplies of meat - rabbits, pheasants, woodpigeon and perhaps the odd deer. There are roe deer living in woods nearby and a previous owner of our house used to shoot them. l will continue to fight the slugs and rabbits for my vegetables. This is sheep farming country with a few beef cattle but l don't fancy turning farmer as l know nothing about it. There are always blackberries and, if the squirrels don't get them, hazelnuts aswell as apples, plums and cherries on our trees, again, provided the local wildlife doesn't get them first.
 

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A bit of farming is useful but it isn't strictly necessary unless you want to get a real concentration of people in one area. If your population density is low enough the calorie to time ratio favours fishing, hunting and foraging but you'll need to steadily increase the ratio of farmers to hunters and foragers if you want to start a village of any reasonable size.
 

Ark79

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I have 3 chosen locations with a good source of water and food,wild edibles. I visit them as much as I can so to familiarise myself. A would sustain myself and my family with hunting and foraging. (Not an easy task)....a few pics of the places I visit
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Life wouldn't be easy at first no switches to get heat or showers to stay clean. As time goes by we would adapt to our surroundings and live more eloquently lol. Don't get me wrong I would much like to live my life as I do know and enter into the wild as preparation and a get away (fun) but if it happens then we are ready. If the shtf then it would be a more Natural way of life. Shelter would be a hunters shack of sorts then progress to a log cabin but we wouldn't stop there I wouldn't have just one spot to live a would rather have 3 or possibly 4 sites to rotate my hunting and gathering so not to deplete the area. Not sure if I would grow crops or try to sustain our survival of natural growing food mmmm conundrum lol. I would also consider grouping up with family and friends.
 

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I have 3 chosen locations with a good source of water and food,wild edibles. I visit them as much as I can so to familiarise myself. A would sustain myself and my family with hunting and foraging. (Not an easy task)....a few pics of the places I visit
Life wouldn't be easy at first no switches to get heat or showers to stay clean. As time goes by we would adapt to our surroundings and live more eloquently lol. Don't get me wrong I would much like to live my life as I do know and enter into the wild as preparation and a get away (fun) but if it happens then we are ready. If the shtf then it would be a more Natural way of life. Shelter would be a hunters shack of sorts then progress to a log cabin but we wouldn't stop there I wouldn't have just one spot to live a would rather have 3 or possibly 4 sites to rotate my hunting and gathering so not to deplete the area. Not sure if I would grow crops or try to sustain our survival of natural growing food mmmm conundrum lol. I would also consider grouping up with family and friends.
Love the images Mark, good post.
Keith.
 

Ark79

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The idea of seasonally moving between different areas in order to take full advantage of resources without totally depleting them makes total sense. I would choose to spend a good part of the year on the coast.


The coast is a good idea sadly for me it's to far away for regular foraging visits but a won't totally write it of. Got to have holidays even after the brown hits the fan:D
 

Keith

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If we stay where we are, which we firstly intend to do, then we have our own water supply from rain catchment in three 5000 gallon water tanks & three 1000 gallon water tanks plus Cattail Pond below the main house which is fed by a header stream.
We grow our own food in two large garden areas, & we live in a forest so we are able to hunt & trap for meat.

If we have to leave here we will be following one of two available water courses, this will supply us with water & food.
Keith.
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Ark79

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there is a simple survival saying that you can survive 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water and 3 weeks without food, this isn't going to be news to most of you but what I would like to discuss with you is how you aim to supply these needs in you're chosen environment. The air is usually not much of a problem unless you're in an NBC scenario but how and where do you find a sustainable source of food and safe water.
Rainwater, boreholes, rivers or springs?
Are you an agriculturalist or a hunter gatherer. A farmer or a forager? Let's leave the stored food out of this and look at sustainable food and water sources.
Please, I would like to read about your take on things specific to you're environment.


What about yourself?
 

lonewolf

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I don't think one can rely on hunting and foraging solely, especially in the UK, there isn't much food about in the winter months, we need to grow some of our own food under the label of "allotments" or maybe a mini smallholding type set up and then preserve and store stuff for winter use.
 

Ark79

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I don't think one can rely on hunting and foraging solely, especially in the UK, there isn't much food about in the winter months, we need to grow some of our own food under the label of "allotments" or maybe a mini smallholding type set up and then preserve and store stuff for winter use.


You could harvest wild edibles and store for the winter months and prep the meet for winter months.

A don't know if you have much hunting experience lone. But there are plenty of game around the uk. And with no natural predators post shtf they would thrive....giving the reason for tshtf didn't wipe them out
 

lonewolf

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yes but WHERE would you store them if your living a mobile lifestyle and moving about all the time?
 

Ark79

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yes but WHERE would you store them if your living a mobile lifestyle and moving about all the time?


Not moving around all the time...rotate my hunting spots so not to deplete the area. Seasonal moves.....a seller of sorts and a shack to store processed meet...salted and smoked. And when possible eat on the move..ie...hunt kill eat.
 

lonewolf

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sort of a cache then I suppose, yes could work, if you had several then you wouldn't lose it all if one was discovered.
 
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