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Informing The Police

Learnt my lesson a while back for got to inform Mr That I was bunny removing at the local golf course having the armed Responce unit screaming drop your weapon and get on the ground does make you learn the error of the ways.

Motto of the story give plod a heads up saves the agro.
 
I have never informed the police even if using a firearm when shooting , I think our laws are strict enough as it is in UK to start with so I don't believe in giving them even more attention than they get already saying that I don't shoot where the general public have access to the ground BUT one of the farms has cottages on their land I usually see the farmer when I am there as I park in his farmyard .
 
As long as your happy explaining yourself to Police when they arrive ( and remember you might get a gun stuck up your nose) dont bother .If your shooting some where where your likely to get seen and reported to Police then I would give them a call before going makes sense. If your unlikely to be seen I wouldnt bother. I dont think Police want to waste time sending out officers and helicopters their arent enough of them left post Police cuts to waste time doing anything they don't need to . I had as shoot next to a caravan park I always let Police know when i was going , i had one half a mile away where no one was likely to see me and I didnt
 
MartinNina said:
As long as your happy explaining yourself to Police when they arrive ( and remember you might get a gun stuck up your nose) dont bother .If your shooting some where where your likely to get seen and reported to Police then I would give them a call before going makes sense. If your unlikely to be seen I wouldnt bother. I dont think Police want to waste time sending out officers and helicopters their arent enough of them left post Police cuts to waste time doing anything they don't need to . I had as shoot next to a caravan park I always let Police know when i was going , i had one half a mile away where no one was likely to see me and I didnt
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They do need the practice for real terrorists though don't they , pity their record for shooting innocents isn't better though !
And Police in US have far worse record for shooting innocents victims .
 
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They do need the practice for real terrorists though don't they , pity their record for shooting innocents isn't better though !
And Police in US have far worse record for shooting innocents victims .
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Look the Police have set routines , man seen with gun Police may go armed to investigate , shooting innocents ? we probably have the most scrutiny in the world post Police shootings , Police have seconds some times to take a decision to fire and possibly take a life. id suggest that If we didnt have them we would critisize the Police for not doing any thing or being ineffective when some one dose commit offences with a gun. I d suggest that we should not automatically berate them many "innocents" reported in left wing media are perhaps not quite as "innocent in real life. I ve seen several people I know of obituaries in local media , they werent shot Id add. The obituaries for people who are "innocent" people quite often leave out violent pasts , assaults on public and Police and describe them as "Full of life "- drug taking loon, "Rough Diamond" - done prison time for GBH and "Lived to the full - was a drug dealer ". Id suggest that as some one who dosnt have to make that call whether to shoot or not your not in a position to criticize armed Police - and no I am not a armed Police man either.
 
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Look the Police have set routines , man seen with gun Police may go armed to investigate , shooting innocents ? we probably have the most scrutiny in the world post Police shootings , Police have seconds some times to take a decision to fire and possibly take a life. id suggest that If we didnt have them we would critisize the Police for not doing any thing or being ineffective when some one dose commit offences with a gun. I d suggest that we should not automatically berate them many "innocents" reported in left wing media are perhaps not quite as "innocent in real life. I ve seen several people I know of obituaries in local media , they werent shot Id add. The obituaries for people who are "innocent" people quite often leave out violent pasts , assaults on public and Police and describe them as "Full of life "- drug taking loon, "Rough Diamond" - done prison time for GBH and "Lived to the full - was a drug dealer ". Id suggest that as some one who dosnt have to make that call whether to shoot or not your not in a position to criticize armed Police - and no I am not a armed Police man either.
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We live in a so called free country so YES I am in a position to criticize whoever I want and also being able to see and read public information in the form of media in all its forms and being around long enough to see police in action with and without firearms on the streets and at picket lines I have a pretty good idea first hand !
 
With all due respect the miners strikes was thirty years ago and organisations change particularly in three decades . Its a bit like saying lots of people died on route to hospital thirty years ago because they had ambulance drivers not para medics and there fore all current para medics are unqualified and let people die through lack of training . As for the UK media being a source of unbiased information... really ??
 
Coypu Hunter said:
All news media have a bias, to left or right or wishy-washy centre. Where do you get your "unbiased" information?
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We have a broad range of media now CH as you not least must know , hundreds of TV channels some specifically for news , then there is internet media and then literature (not only papers ) perhaps I am biased from police officers I know personally most are a good bunch but there is good and bad in all groups of people and police are NO exception , my cousin is married to an officer serving in the Met now and he transferred from Wales to a specialist group for the fun and excitement of it as he says , as for not quoting what happened in miners and steel strikes - why not ?
So CH are you saying media in all its forms is biased ?
If so who do we take information from , ignore books , papers , documentaries , or just ignore everything we hear and see regardless of where and when its from .
 
welshwizard said:
We have a broad range of media now CH as you not least must know , hundreds of TV channels some specifically for news , then there is internet media and then literature (not only papers ) perhaps I am biased from police officers I know personally most are a good bunch but there is good and bad in all groups of people and police are NO exception , my cousin is married to an officer serving in the Met now and he transferred from Wales to a specialist group for the fun and excitement of it as he says , as for not quoting what happened in miners and steel strikes - why not ?
So CH are you saying media in all its forms is biased ?
If so who do we take information from , ignore books , papers , documentaries , or just ignore everything we hear and see regardless of where and when its from .
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I was actually asking MartinNina... I think you're getting your replies a bit mixed up... I have no problem with you referencing the Miners' Strike, since I'm the son of a miner, and was being drug up in a mining village at that time...

As for sources of news, these days I simply follow the teachings of our Dear Leader and Great Helmsman, Spock, who is all-seeing, all-knowing and of course infallible. :)

Apart from that, though, I take everything with a pinch of salt, add in a little lemon juice, balsamic vinegar and sugar, and make up my own mind. Then say "Sôd it" and go off for a plink. Works for me. ;)
 
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I take every thing the media says with a pinch of salt, youve turned this in to a what do you know about the miners ??? what do you or the other poster know about the modern Police service . Apart from what youve seen in the media ????, people in glass houses springs to mind guys ?. Welsh Wizard Where do you get your accurate info about modern Policing to a degree you can claim to know all about the shooting of innocent people ?
I am not defending the police I am sure they have their faults but I would say don't believe every thing you see on the multi news channels you see . The Police may have behaved badly thirty years ago, it was thirty years ago, move on
 
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MartinNina said:
The Police may have behaved badly thirty years ago, it was thirty years ago, move on
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Just don't say that about the Rozzers to any Scouser, or you'll get thumped -- I did! :p

During the 1984 miners' strike, a lot of shît went down in Wales and the Midlands, much of which wasn't filmed or reported. The local population have long memories, which goes to explain why many in those areas danced the night away when Maggie died. The police were very much seen as the sharp end of the State's attempt to crush the miners, and trade unionism in general. It wasn't a case of one or two bad coppers, rather the police being bussed in from long distances to overpower local resistance. Less one or two rotten apples, more an organ of state repression. That hasn't changed.

Yes, I think that all media are biased, even if it's only in terms of what they choose to leave out rather than cover in depth. Everyone has an agenda or a cultural or political slant, however hard they try to suppress it.
 

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I am a cool as a cucumber about it , It still happened thirty years ago. I recall a taxi driver killed by a concrete block being dropped on his car by strikers too, do i think all strikers were violent murders ... no. They were turbulent times and to blame the Police is a bit much. Even Teresa May in her bid for PM recently stated she had "Cleaned up the Police " and removed corruption , from a person who is part of an organisation who were caught fiddling their expensive s and just forgot about it and made it go away. Yes thirty years ago there were probably many corrupt Police but why compare that to todays Police ?. The Police generally do what the government of the day want . I just object to one service being picked out for a good seeing too by MPS and public. If you think the Police aren't that good over here try living in Russia and try dealing with the Police there ??. I would still suggest comparing any organisation to how they were thirty years ago is a bit naive
 
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I am a cool as a cucumber about it , It still happened thirty years ago. I recall a taxi driver killed by a concrete block being dropped on his car by strikers too, do i think all strikers were violent murders ... no. They were turbulent times and to blame the Police is a bit much. Even Teresa May in her bid for PM recently stated she had "Cleaned up the Police " and removed corruption , from a person who is part of an organisation who were caught fiddling their expensive s and just forgot about it and made it go away. Yes thirty years ago there were probably many corrupt Police but why compare that to todays Police ?. The Police generally do what the government of the day want . I just object to one service being picked out for a good seeing too by MPS and public. If you think the Police aren't that good over here try living in Russia and try dealing with the Police there ??. I would still suggest comparing any organisation to how they were thirty years ago is a bit naive
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I was actually asking MartinNina... I think you're getting your replies a bit mixed up... I have no problem with you referencing the Miners' Strike, since I'm the son of a miner, and was being drug up in a mining village at that time...end of quote

Sorry CH misconstrued , as you say for some of us the strikes were a big eye opener and not easily forgotten regardless of how long ago it happened things happened that bit deep , for me with a family , a mortgage and no income it bit hard , we survived on donated food which was also hard, police were drafted in from miles away and put up in hotels and b&b and on big wages due to their overtime , not only that but a lot of them were not police as doubtless went on at every picketed location .:mad:
 
MartinNina said:
I take every thing the media says with a pinch of salt, youve turned this in to a what do you know about the miners ??? what do you or the other poster know about the modern Police service . Apart from what youve seen in the media ????, people in glass houses springs to mind guys ?. Welsh Wizard Where do you get your accurate info about modern Policing to a degree you can claim to know all about the shooting of innocent people ?
I am not defending the police I am sure they have their faults but I would say don't believe every thing you see on the multi news channels you see . The Police may have behaved badly thirty years ago, it was thirty years ago, move on
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Do you live in Russia then ,Martina ?
If not how do you know anything of the Russian police ?
 
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