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The point is that all life should be respected, I don't kill for fun but occasionally I do have to kill animals that I have no intention of eating, in these instances all I can do is use the most humane method available.
as much as I hate pigeons and other vermin I wont shoot them during the nesting season, if they are raising young then those young will starve to death. Not a good way to goQuite thought provoking "Boogie man"
I think what can be said about our species is that we need to gain more credibility against other species.
As I often point out to people. We are the only ones that kill for fun, we actively seek conflict with others of our own type, wipe out other species to the point of extinction, and artificially destroy our own habitats and planet.
And Yet we judge other species as vermin and pests.
That rat just trying to live its life may already carry more respect than us.
C
You are right Joe, the young will starve to death, but I make an exception for Rats. I kill them on sight. Back in the Day it was common practice to have certain times you went out, Woodies were left until Fledged, same with Rooks. Rabbits & Crows/Magpies seem to be fair game all year round, but it's not nice killing "Milky" does, even worse when She has a belly full. Sometimes it has to be done.as much as I hate pigeons and other vermin I wont shoot them during the nesting season, if they are raising young then those young will starve to death. Not a good way to go
Strangely Ants will attack other species of Ants and raid their colonies, one of the very few creatures other than Humans to wage War. They organise their raiding parties just like Armies, with Soldiers, logistics and Medics. Maybe it is something to do with highly organised societies having the ability to fight more effectively.Quite thought provoking "Boogie man"
I think what can be said about our species is that we need to gain more credibility against other species.
As I often point out to people. We are the only ones that kill for fun, we actively seek conflict with others of our own type, wipe out other species to the point of extinction, and artificially destroy our own habitats and planet.
And Yet we judge other species as vermin and pests.
That rat just trying to live its life may already carry more respect than us.
C
All territorial creature will fight for survival, to protect nests, dens, mates, food etc.....we're the only ones stupid enough to fight over ideology.
I agree but only as a last resortYou are right Joe, the young will starve to death, but I make an exception for Rats. I kill them on sight. Back in the Day it was common practice to have certain times you went out, Woodies were left until Fledged, same with Rooks. Rabbits & Crows/Magpies seem to be fair game all year round, but it's not nice killing "Milky" does, even worse when She has a belly full. Sometimes it has to be done.
Chimps fight for ideology?apart From chimps mate
Chimps fight for ideology?
I know exactly what you mean mate, we all remember those times when we were to young and stupid to know better, or too cock sure to think we could fail. I still remember shots from 30yrs back that I regret. But that's why we have a conscience and can strive to be better.When I hunted it had to be purposely done ie to control numbers as @1 shot willie said. Or rarely to put food on the table. In the uk there has to be human intervention for the number of pests/animals. But from dear to rat we still have to respect them...after all it’s a living thing! I never enjoyed the kill. It was the hunt and finally the shot on target. Wounding an animal is a horrible experience one that nearly stopped me from hunting.
I know exactly what you mean mate, we all remember those times when we were to young and stupid to know better, or too cock sure to think we could fail. I still remember shots from 30yrs back that I regret. But that's why we have a conscience and can strive to be better.
Back to the original thread, intentionally snaring birds is now illegal in the UK even with the landowners permission, there have as yet been no successful prosecutions but it's best not to forget that trapping is under constant scrutiny from a very unsympathetic public. There are also laws in place to prevent the use of gorges, hooks or unlicensed netsIf I were walking on a footpath through a public woodland and my shoelace broke and I decided to fix it, and in the process of fixing and tying the knots, perhaps maybe I was singing, as is my want on a sunny day, and my voice was to startle a pheasant causing it to swoop down and get his head stuck in my shoelace, killing the poor sod stone dead, well if all those things happened, just how much trouble could one get in if in want of not wasting the tasty beast one took it and ate it??
Don't get me wrong, if all those things happened I'd immediately buy a lottery ticket! But just asking cos the internet's a bit vague...